IOM GOV UPDATE – 30TH OCTOBER

HOWARD AND DAVID.

WORLD SITUATION

  • FRANCE AND GERMANY ARE IN LOCKDOWN

  • R RATE STILL RISING, DEATH RATE IS THE SAME AS IT WAS IN MAY

  • NEW WAVE MAY BE LONGER THAN THE FIRST

  • EVIDENCE IS SAYING WE CAN’T HANG OUR HAT ON IMMUNITY IN THE COMMUNITY

MANX SITU

  • WE NEED TO SCRUTINISE OUR SITUATION ON ISLAND AS WE WATCH THE UK

  • WE HAVE ONE NEW CASE, TRACK AND TRACE HAVE IDENTIFIED CLOSE CONTACTS

  • WE CAN MANAGE ANOTHER OUTBREAK, SHOULD IT HAPPEN

ASHY’S BACK BABY AND HE’S LOOKING FINE

  • BIT DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT GP OFFICE STAFF ARE BEING SPOKEN TO IN A RUDE AND AGGRESSIVE MANNER

  • THEY’RE NOT BEING NOSY, QUESTIONS ARE REQUIRED BECAUSE THERE IS A GLOBAL PANDEMIC GOING ON

  • SHOW YA COMMUNITY SPIRIT LADS AND DON’T BE AN A**HOLE TO THE PEOPLE KEEPING US SAFE.

NEW TESTING REGIME

  • WE’RE LOOKING INTO OPTIONS TO MODIFY TESTING

  • WE’RE AWARE THAT PATIENTS WHO GO AWAY TO UK HOSPITALS REGULARLY ARE IN PERPETUAL ISOLATION. WE’RE BRINGING BACK 7 DAY TESTNG FOR THOSE WHO HAVE TWO APPOINTMENTS IN A 4 WEEK PERIOD- AND THEIR ESCORTS. THE RULES ARE THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS 7 DAY TESTING.

  • ALSO DOING THIS WITH KEY WORKERS.

  • THIS WILL ALL BE IN PLACE NEXT WEEK, HOPEFULLY.

THE B WORD

  • WE REMAIN IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE UK AND CHANNELS ISLANDS

  • WE’RE KEEPING ABREAST OF THE TALKS, AND WE’RE BEING REPPED

  • WE CAN’T MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THE TALKS: IT COULD STILL GO TO SH!T

  • NEW RULES FROM 1ST JAN 2021

  • IF YOU VISIT, TRADE, OR COME FROM EU- CHECK FOR RULE CHANGES

  • CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE AND INTERACTIVE GUIDE: IT’S BEEN UPDATED. WE’LL ALSO BE ON THE SOCIALS

  • CHECK YA PASSPORTS – THEY NEED TO BE VALID FOR 6 MONTHS – WE WOULDN’T WANT TO SEE ANYONE STRANDED

  • NEW PET TRAVEL RULES

  • THIS IS JUST A FLAVOUR: TOO MUCH STUFF TO MENTION. CHECK THE GOV WEBSITE

SCALLOPS

  • KING SCALLOP SEASON STARTS SUNDAY BABYYYYY

  • BIG TIME FOR THE FISH PROCESSING SECTOR

  • BECAUSE CREWS FROM NORTHERN ISLAND AND SCOTLAND USE OUR HARBOURS, WE’RE GETTING SOME NEW BORDER RULES SO THE IRISH LADS DON’T HIT THE PUBS

  • IT WAS COMPLEX TO ARRANGE BUT RULES ARE BASIC: FISHERMAN WILL BE ALLOWED TO TIE UP BOATS IN DOUGLAS AND PEEL, BUT MUST NOT LEAVE THE VESSELS

  • SOME FENCING AND SECURITY TO MAKE A “TANGIBLE BORDER”: MAY LOOK AND SEEM A LITTLE STRANGE

  • IT’S TO PROTECT US ALL

QUESTIONS

ROB: TELL US ABOUT DR RACH RESIGNING

HQ: I’M SURPRISED. DAVE YOU ANSWER PLEASE

DAVID: I’M SADDENED RACHEL HAS DECIDED TO LEAVE, BUT I WAS HER DECISION. 

WE HAVE HIGHLY QUALIFIED STAFF: IN PATHOLOGY, MICROBIOLOGY. NOT JUST RELYING ON ONE PERSON (RACH).

SOME PEOPLE ARE UPSET WITH HOW IT’S BEEN REPORTED IN THE PRESS.

I HAVE A LETTER FROM A DHSC EMPLOYEE (CAN’T TELL YOU THEIR NAME THO) – DEAR MINISTER, WE ARE DEMOMARLISED BY THE MEDIA COVERAGE. MAKES ME THINK “WHY DO I BOTHER”. WE HAVE HIGHLY TRAINED AND SKILLED STAFF AND A SECOND TO NONE TESTING SCHEME. IT ISN’T RELYING ON ONE PERSON. WE DON’T WANT PRAISE OR RECOGNITION, BUT THERE IS A TEAM THAT IS QUALIFIED AND COMPETENT. ALL FEELS LIKE A KICK IN THE TEETH.

BASICALLY RACH WAS IMPORTANT AND DID AN “EXTREME” AMOUNT OF WORK, BUT THERE WAS ALSO A TEAM. SHOUTOUT TO THEM- THANKS X

ROB: HOW WILL GOV ASSIST PEOPLE LEAVING THE ISLAND TO SEE THEIR FAM IN MARCH AND APRIL IF COVID IS STILL HERE? NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD 2 WEEKS ISO

HQ: I CAN’T SEE INTO THE FUTURE, ROB. HOPEFULLY A VACCINE IN MARCH? WE NEED TO PROTECT LIFE AND ECONOMY ON ISLAND, BUT WE ARE AWARE OF PEOPLE WANTING TO SEE FAMILY. I CAN’T GIVE YOU AND ANSWER NOW, BECAUSE THERE ISN’T ONE.

PAUL: NOTHING. LITERALLY SILENCE.

HQ: UNMUTE YOURSELF HUN X

PAUL: IN REFERENCE TO THE LETTER. THE PRESS ARE JUST DOING OUR JOB. DR RACH HASN’T GONE TO THE PRESS: WE’VE ONLY SEEN HER TWEETS, WE CAN’T BE BLAMED.

ASHY: I’M JUST READING A LETTER, PAUL. I’M NOT BLAMING THE MEDIA.

PAUL: YOUR JOB IS TO REPORT

ASHY: BUT PAUL, I DID AN INTERVIEW

PAUL: GIVE US THE DEETS OF WHAT DR GLOVER SAID IN TYNWALD

ASHY: RACH GAVE US SOME FACTUAL INFO ABOUT THE PCR TEST- WHAT IT IS, WHY IT’S GOLD STANDARD, IT’S LIMITATIONS. NO ADVICE THO.

LET ME REMIND YOU PAUL, WE HAVE OUR OWN FULL-TIME ADVISORS

PAUL: WHAT HAPPENED IN THE WORKSHOPS?

HQ: WE RELEASED SOME STUFF PAUL, WE DON’T LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THINGS BEFORE THEY’RE GOSPEL. WE’LL HOPEFULLY HAVE MORE STUFF NEXT WEEK, WE NEED TO GET IT RIGHT, IT’S ALL COMPLICATED

ASHY: COUNCIL OF MINISTERS ASSESS POLICIES ON 2 WEEK ROLLING BASIS, YOU KNOW THIS PAUL. THE UK SITU PLAYS INTO OUR ASSESSMENTS. WE LOOK IF THINGS ARE STILL WORKING. THAT’S THE CORRECT WAY TO DO THINGS.

SIMON: RACH SAID BY DITCHING THE 7 DAY TEST, WE ARE EFFECTIVELY DEPRIVING OURSELVES OF VALUABLE DATA. THE 14 DAY ISOLATION AND TEST ON DAY 13, TO A LAYMAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE COMMON SENSE

ASHY: I AGREE WITH SURVEILLANCE TESTING – WE NEED TO MOVE TOWARDS IT. WE NEED TO DECIDE DETAILS. 

I DON’T LIKE MANDATORY TESTING- MUST BE A PERSON WHO DECIDES. 

14 DAY TESTING = NO BENEFIT. NOT A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE, HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD EVEN FANCY IT? THERE WAS BENEFIT FOR 7 DAY – THEY PAID AND THEY WERE GIVEN A MODIFIED SELF-ISOLATION. 

SIMON: WHAT’S THE WORSE CASE SITUATION FOR THE ISLAND? WOULD YOU STOP TRAVEL ON AND OFF ISLAND?

HOWARD: NEVER SAY NEVER. IF UK WENT INTO TOTAL LOCKDOWN, THAT’S SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT. NOT IN OUR IMMINENT PLANS, HOPE WE DON’T HAVE TO, BUT NO GUARANTEES. 

MANX RADIO ALEX: YOU’VE MOVED FROM 300-800 CAPACITY. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO STEP UP COMMUNITY TESTING?

ASHY: 2 TEST. COMMUNITY SURVEILLANCE WOULDN’T GIVE US MUCH. WE NEED MORE SURVEILLANCE TESTING WITH PEOPLE COMING BACK. NO POINT IN DOING GENERAL COMMUNITY TESTING WHEN NO COMMUNITY CASES.

HQ: 1500 TESTS IN LAST FORTNIGHT, WE TEST EVERYONE WHO COMES INTO HOSPITAL. IT SEEMS POINTLESS FORKING OUT WHEN IT’S NOT IN THE COMMUNITY. SHOULD THERE BE A DOWNTURN, WE CAN DO A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TESTING. LITTLE POINT. 

ASHY: WE ALSO TEST HIGH-RISK CONTACTS AUTOMATICALLY.

MANX RADIO ALEX: IF SOMEONE, FROM THE COMMUNITY, IS CONCERNED, THEY HAVE COVID, COULD THEY SELF REFER FOR A TEST.

ASHY- NO, IT’D BE BASED ON SYMPTOMS. IT’S A MEDICAL PROCESS. UNFORTUNATELY, PEOPLE WOULD DO IT TIME AFTER TIME. WE NEED MEDICAL TRIAGE

HOWARD- DON’T JUST TURN UP FOR TEST, CALL 111

MANX RADIO ALEX: ISN’T THE DEFAULT POSITION TO ISOLATE?

ASHY – NO, IF YOU HAVE SYMPTOMS, YOU WOULD BE REFERRED TO TESTING

JOSH: RUMOUR HAS IT KEY WORKERS ARE WORKING ALONGSIDE MANX WORKER WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS.

ASHY – ON MEDICAL SIDE – YES. THERE ARE SEVERAL PATHWAYS. ONE IS A 7 DAY TEST- THEY ARE RESTRICTED DUTIES, PPE AND, DISTANCING. RAPID TESTING FOR KEY WORKERS WHO COME OVER FOR A DAY- WE CAN ONLY DO 16 A DAY, COMES BACK IN A HALF HOUR. THEY DO HAVE RESTRICTIONS. 

JOSH: EXPLAIN THE DECISION PROCESS OF WHAT RESTRICTIONS A KEY WORKER HAS- CASE BY CASE?

ASHY- YES, IT IS CASE BY CASE. DEPENDS ON ROLE, WHAT IT CONSISTS OF, WHO THEY WILL COME IN CONTACT W/. SOME RESTRICTIONS, PPE, SOCIAL DISTANCING. SOME WILL ACCESS 7 DAY TEST, OTHERS NOT SO. SOME WORK IN ISOLATION. BASED ON ROLE A PERSON IS DOING AND RISK MITIGATION

HQ- JUST WANT TO ADD- THESE ARE AGREED BEFORE THEY COME

JOSH- CAN PEOPLE SEE INFO ON THESE PATHWAYS?

ASHY- SORRY, I DON’T KNOW THIS.

JOSH- SHOULD WE HAVE A MORE AGGRESSIVE BORDER POLICY, LIKE JERSEY AND GUERNSEY?

HQ: JERSEY HAVE COMMUNITY CASES, SOCIAL DISTANCING, SOME SCHOOLS ARE SHUT. WE DON’T HAVE THAT: WE HAVE A LOT OF FREEDOMS COMPARED TO OTHERS IN THE WORLD. BASICALLY: WE’LL COPY PEOPLE IF IT SEEMS THE BEST THING – PEOPLE ARE BUZZING ABOUT NEW ZEALAND ATM.

ASHY: INITIAL BORDER TESTING WOULD MAYBE PICK UP 7% OF CASES. NOT GOOD- WOULD CAUSE COMMUNITY CASES. IF WE ARE STILL DOING ISOLATION, WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT? GUERNSEY BORDER TESTING COSTS THEM 4 MIL.

HQ: WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DATA. ALSO, LADS, IF YOU HAD A NEGATIVE RESULT – WOULD YOU BE COMPLIANT WITH THE ISOLATION? OR WOULD YOU SAY- LET ME GO TO THE PARTY? YOU MIGHT ACCIDENTALLY SPREAD CORONA. LOOKING FORWARD TO A DEFINITIVE EARLY TEST. WOULD BE A GAME CHANGER.  

SAM: UK HAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT LONG COVID? HOW YA DOING HOWARD? IS THIS SOMETHING WE’VE SEEN IN THE COMMUNITY?

HQ: LET ME TELL YOU A FUN HQ FACT: IV’E LOST PROBABLY 95% OF MY TASTE AND SMELL FOR THE LAST 6 MONTHS. IT’S GOT GRADUALLY WORSE. HOPE THOSE CELLS REPAIR.

ASHY: WE ARE SEEING SOME EVIDENCE OF LONG COVID IN THE MANX COMMUNITY. WE KNOW THERE CAN BE BAD DAMAGE, EVEN IN YOUNG, HEALTHY PEOPLE, LIKE LONG TERM LONG SCARRING AND STICKY BLOOD SYNDROME. NO EVIDENCE ON ISLAND THO.

SAM: INDULGE ME: LET’S GO BACK TO JULY. HOW FAR HAVE WE COME WITH ANTIBODY TESTING.

ASHY- WE HAD OUR PRELIMINARY RESULTS, WE KNOW ANTIBODIES LAST FOR ABOUT 6 MONTHS. WE WERE PLANNING A SECOND ROUND OF TESTING, BUT NO POINT WITH US BEING COVID-FREE FOR 6 MONTHS. WE WOULDN’T LEARN ANYTHING NEW.

BBC ALEX: TELL ME ABOUT THE RAPID TESTS. WHY DON’T WE HAVE MORE?

THEY’RE RATIONED WORLDWIDE. WE’RE ONLY ALLOWED 16. ALSO, THEY ARE TESTED ONE PER TIME, SO TAKES AN HOUR FOR EACH TO COME BACK.

BBC ALEX: GOT A CONUNDRUM FOR YOU FROM A VIEWER. THEY LIVE IN SHARED ACCOMMODATION IN A FRONT FACING PROFESSION. THEY LIVE WITH SOMEONE SELF-ISOLATING AND THEIR BOSS SAYS THEY CAN’T COME IN. SO WHAT’S YOUR ADVICE FOR THEM?

HQ- THERE IS NO LEGAL BAR ON WORK, UNDER RULES THAT AS LONG AS SHARED AREAS ARE CLEAN. DIFFERENT EMPLOYERS HAVE DIFFERENT INTERNAL POLICIES. THAT IS THE CHOICE OF THE EMPLOYER. 

CLOSING

HQ- TENTACLES OF CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC ARE IN ALL FACETS OF SOCIETY, BUT SOME THINGS REMAIN THE SAME: THE PEEL COMMISSIONERS FIREWORKS WILL GO ON. PEEL IS THE PLACE TO BE. ENJOY IT, HAPPY HOP-TU-NAA. WE ARE SO LUCKY. PLEASE STAY SAFE, BE RESPONSIBLE, MAKE RIGHT DECISION. HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND, SEE YA NEXT WEEK.